Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) emerged Monday evening from a roughly hour-long meeting with President Biden on the debt ceiling saying the latest conversation was “productive,” but that the two sides still don’t have an agreement on how to avoid default just days until the deadline.
“I felt we had a productive discussion. We don’t have an agreement yet,” McCarthy told reporters after the Oval Office meeting.
McCarthy said he believed the tone of the meeting was “better than any other time we’ve had discussions.” But there are still clear philosophical differences that the two sides must overcome.
Biden, for example, has argued reforming the tax system to account for government revenue should be on the table in negotiations. But McCarthy said after Monday’s meeting that “the problem is not revenue, the problem is spending.”
Rep. Patrick McHenry (R-N.C.), who also attended the White House meeting and has been in negotiations with administration officials in recent days, said the conversation between McCarthy and Biden provided clarity for ongoing talks.
“It told us as the negotiating team a little more of the details we need to get to a package, a package that can pass Congress,” he said.
Monday’s meeting came after a roller coaster few days in negotiations, which saw both Biden and McCarthy project optimism late last week only for talks to falter over the weekend. The two leaders spoke on the phone on Sunday as Biden was traveling back from the Group of Seven (G7) Summit in Japan.
McCarthy said shortly before Monday’s meeting that he still believed an agreement was possible in time to avert a default. But he has been adamant that such a deal must be struck soon so it can be voted on in the House, sent to the Senate and approved there before heading to the White House for Biden’s signature.
Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen in a letter to congressional leaders on Monday warned that it was “highly likely” the U.S. will not be able to pay all of its debts if lawmakers do not act by early June, and “potentially as early as June 1.”
Officials have for weeks cautioned that if the U.S. were to default, or even come close to it, it would have severe economic consequences and potentially trigger a recession.